tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post7071573505747355362..comments2024-02-22T06:54:45.079+00:00Comments on Melissa Terras' Blog: Reuse of Digitised Content (4): Chasing an Orphan Work Through the UK's New Copyright Licensing SchemeMelissahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00759369628908140089noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-49568206231091081622015-07-02T14:16:50.637+01:002015-07-02T14:16:50.637+01:00Congratulations - wonderful account.
I do the sam...Congratulations - wonderful account.<br /><br />I do the same stuff for scientific publications where it's nearly as bizarre. Published in 1880- show us the authr's death certificate. And yes, re-use rights calcuators are appalling.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04097697708094731758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-5903013698929039732015-06-15T13:45:01.854+01:002015-06-15T13:45:01.854+01:00good. good. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12027670104106909594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-41256751193727438802015-01-15T15:34:10.174+00:002015-01-15T15:34:10.174+00:00Interestingly, IPO say in their guidance that you ...Interestingly, IPO say in their guidance that you can apply for a licence if you are unsure about whether copyright exists or not. This means that potentially licences are/can be granted for out of copyright workss. If you have a look at the licences already granted, via their Orphan Works register, my strong feeling is that many of them are out of copyright. Its even more interesting that clearly the IPO can't even be definitive about whether works are in copyright or not - which begs the question - if they can't who can? Money for nothing.....Naomi Kornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539824986130861184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-22186522332013532982015-01-15T10:34:13.390+00:002015-01-15T10:34:13.390+00:00Interesting experience. So you want to "adopt...Interesting experience. So you want to "adopt it, so I can use it widely". Do you mean commercially exploit an unknown copyright work so you can make an income from another artist's (most likely an illustrator) work? If so then I expect the Orphan Works system prices are based on market rates, essentially what an illustrator would likely charge for using their work for you to make and sell retail products, which you may decide to sell to a retail company like Tesco or Top Shop.The Photo Advocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03459148150405274423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-25300547797431892622015-01-07T20:44:33.304+00:002015-01-07T20:44:33.304+00:00Christopher Pipe (https://twitter.com/cplrc) said ...Christopher Pipe (https://twitter.com/cplrc) said this on twitter, leaving the comment here so its noted!: <br /><br />I'm not convinced by the IPO's point 2 since the fig they quoted you for a commercial licence is clearly not worked out by any rough comparison but by an automatic calculation of some kind. IPO shd make "what if" queries available so that potential licensees can see what changes they'd have to make to their plans to bring the cost within their budget. And LIbs &c are asked to raise income, but the way these rules are set up doesn't encourages them to use their archives thus.Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00759369628908140089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-83342126258923792882015-01-07T15:27:42.488+00:002015-01-07T15:27:42.488+00:00Have you considered an FOI request from their comm...Have you considered an FOI request from their commercial model and the research behind it?Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03042264991585572789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-80892309942459830692015-01-07T13:59:06.361+00:002015-01-07T13:59:06.361+00:00Wow. Just wow. Everything about this seems batty.
...Wow. Just wow. Everything about this seems batty.<br /><br />1. Why do you have to pay anything at all to "adopt" these orphaned works? Their answer suggests that the only reasons are to support their own overzealous bureaucracy and to compensate the rights holder if they ever turn up. Surely there is a better way of doing the latter - and it must be such a fringe case anyway.<br /><br />2. Producing complicated formulas for imagined uses of these works strikes me as an utterly crazy approach guaranteed to become out of date almost instantly. As soon as it launched it failed to meet your own needs. The whole point of copyright is to support creativity, yet this does the opposite.<br /><br />3. Attempting to determine pricing through a formula is similarly doomed to failure. How about a market mechanism? Place images up for auction and allow people to bid on them. Sell licences at different rates for different numbers of years, so you could have your image for $1 for 1 year, but say $50 for 5 years.<br /><br />Personally, I don't really have much sympathy for "owners" of apparently abandoned copyright works. Who are these people? They're probably corporations that have no idea what their holdings are until some super obscure image suddenly becomes famous and then they want their piece of the action...<br /><br />(Anyway, it was great to meet you in Melbourne - thanks for coming!)Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963716974666842075noreply@blogger.com