tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post3943445684082418517..comments2024-02-22T06:54:45.079+00:00Comments on Melissa Terras' Blog: Computer Games and author listsMelissahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00759369628908140089noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-44297777282677762382011-11-28T11:44:01.527+00:002011-11-28T11:44:01.527+00:00Thanks Wally. I didnt mean to self- aggrandize... ...Thanks Wally. I didnt mean to self- aggrandize... I mean, if I hadnt pushed it on through, it wouldnt have existed <b>as a publication</b>. This is the truth. It would have been an MA dissertation that no-one could find, read or cite (at least, without requesting it physically from our departmental storage facility!). <br /><br />I think <b>more</b> fuss should be made about it. There are too many people who claim authorship who didnt do anything. There are a lot of disgruntled people out there.<br /><br />Mutual agreement is hard when you are a grad student (I remember, I was one too, once). <br /><br />But thanks for your comment - I will watch my tone.Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00759369628908140089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-36242535425666612972011-11-25T21:20:14.751+00:002011-11-25T21:20:14.751+00:00Hi Mel,
The sequence of authors should be based o...Hi Mel,<br /><br />The sequence of authors should be based on a mutual agreement, and it is hardly a secret that often enough this agreement is not mutual at all. Based on what you wrote it seems entirely acceptable to me that in this particular case the supervisor appears as joint author in second place.<br />However, this is for reasons best known to the joint authors themselves, and blaring them out in public is pointless unless one is unhappy with the order of names.<br />A senior joint author publicly announcing that the piece she published with a recent graduate would never exist without her involvement sheds bad light on the junior contributor (even more so if he appears as first author). It all comes across like an act of self-aggrandizement on your part. Ironically you seemingly wanted to demonstrate just the opposite with your post. But in my view you missed the point. Besides, academic teachers re-writing/re-structuring their students very first academic publication without claiming joint authorship are not that uncommon, I'd say it happens quite regularly without anyone making too much fuss about it.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />Wallycyberwallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03430212165383606798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-962447465856397284.post-30663294120625260462011-11-25T19:05:49.442+00:002011-11-25T19:05:49.442+00:00And Paul gave a great talk at today's Future P...And Paul gave a great talk at today's Future Perfect of the Book conference - sparked lots of discussion too.KathShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021971541457112729noreply@blogger.com